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Roleplay / Re: End of the World
« on: May 30, 2010, 07:23:25 am »
Chapter 1 - Preparing for the end
The eminent scientist, hired by the Travel Agency, has been investigating the phenomena since hearing the first reports. He has published the following statement;
“I believe that the Time-space continuum is on the verge of collapse. All readings point to a reversal in the continuum, all energy, time, space and matter are being drawn together. My theory proves that the dimensions are imploding, the four striving to become one. This would put an incredible strain on the fabric of space-time, which I doubt it could withstand. What will happen at the point of implosion, I cannot predict. Will it be total annihilation? Will a new dimension be born? Or is this the cycle of nature, the 4 dimensions in their final throws of rebirth?
After exploring all avenues, I can see no way of preventing the implosion. The world will end, that I can state with totally certainty. Though I am a scientist, I will be praying to the gods for a miracle, that somehow we will all survive.”
Once the paper was made public, panic ensued. No one has the answers, people have no one to turn to. The gods themselves were saying nothing; perhaps even they feared what was coming.
Cults began to grow, some worshipping the time rifts, others condemning them. Fighting broke out, civil unrest was high. People’s faces taught with worry, asking questions that nobody could answer. Some turned to religion, others crime and drugs, each trying to find their own way to meet the end. Others just disappeared without a trace.
Clans have invested heavily in magical protection for their clan hall, pouring all the accumulated gold from over the last 600 years. Banks are collapsing as panic withdrawals continue, as the common people try to protect their own property, but all to no avail as the clans have pushed the price too high for anyone to be able to afford the services, even if they could. The magicians have exhausted their reserves of Mana, and cannot produce any more protection spells.
All around the 4 dimensions, one emotion above all else can be felt;
Hopelessness….
But there could be hope.
There is a man, who instead of spending his wealth on protecting his own property and possessions, has invested his wealth in to creating a protected area, using his resources to create a bubble in space and time. This space is not large, it cannot hold more than food, water and the few that will be lucky enough to be inside the bubble when it is sealed. He has now fully prepared the bubble, exhausting himself, magically creating food and water that he knows will not perish. Hopefully enough for the unknown period of time it will take before it is safe to emerge from this sanctuary, indeed if ever.
Who will this man allow to enter? What fee will he ask those that want to shelter inside the bubble? Who will still have the strength and the means to meet his terms? How many will join him, in this bid for survival? And most of all will this magic bubble truly save those, who are inside?
(Additions from other players will be added from this point on, these will be reviewed by the imms and myself and if edited we will ask for your permission to post the edited version)
The eminent scientist, hired by the Travel Agency, has been investigating the phenomena since hearing the first reports. He has published the following statement;
“I believe that the Time-space continuum is on the verge of collapse. All readings point to a reversal in the continuum, all energy, time, space and matter are being drawn together. My theory proves that the dimensions are imploding, the four striving to become one. This would put an incredible strain on the fabric of space-time, which I doubt it could withstand. What will happen at the point of implosion, I cannot predict. Will it be total annihilation? Will a new dimension be born? Or is this the cycle of nature, the 4 dimensions in their final throws of rebirth?
After exploring all avenues, I can see no way of preventing the implosion. The world will end, that I can state with totally certainty. Though I am a scientist, I will be praying to the gods for a miracle, that somehow we will all survive.”
Once the paper was made public, panic ensued. No one has the answers, people have no one to turn to. The gods themselves were saying nothing; perhaps even they feared what was coming.
Cults began to grow, some worshipping the time rifts, others condemning them. Fighting broke out, civil unrest was high. People’s faces taught with worry, asking questions that nobody could answer. Some turned to religion, others crime and drugs, each trying to find their own way to meet the end. Others just disappeared without a trace.
Clans have invested heavily in magical protection for their clan hall, pouring all the accumulated gold from over the last 600 years. Banks are collapsing as panic withdrawals continue, as the common people try to protect their own property, but all to no avail as the clans have pushed the price too high for anyone to be able to afford the services, even if they could. The magicians have exhausted their reserves of Mana, and cannot produce any more protection spells.
All around the 4 dimensions, one emotion above all else can be felt;
Hopelessness….
But there could be hope.
There is a man, who instead of spending his wealth on protecting his own property and possessions, has invested his wealth in to creating a protected area, using his resources to create a bubble in space and time. This space is not large, it cannot hold more than food, water and the few that will be lucky enough to be inside the bubble when it is sealed. He has now fully prepared the bubble, exhausting himself, magically creating food and water that he knows will not perish. Hopefully enough for the unknown period of time it will take before it is safe to emerge from this sanctuary, indeed if ever.
Who will this man allow to enter? What fee will he ask those that want to shelter inside the bubble? Who will still have the strength and the means to meet his terms? How many will join him, in this bid for survival? And most of all will this magic bubble truly save those, who are inside?
(Additions from other players will be added from this point on, these will be reviewed by the imms and myself and if edited we will ask for your permission to post the edited version)
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Roleplay / A little snippet of Chapter 1 -
« on: May 28, 2010, 04:09:59 pm »
Panic has now hit the populous of the 4 dimensions, there is nowhere to hide, no chance of survival, if the scientist are to be believed. But there is one person, who might have a way to survive.
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Roleplay / Help required
« on: May 28, 2010, 04:08:32 pm »
To all RP players, and those that arn't yet 
I have started a thread called the End of the World, where I hope to be able to RP characters through the pwipe. This I cannot do on my own, and would dearly love other players to join me in making this a really big RP event.
There are a further 5 chapters to come, chapter 1 is well underway and I will post as soon as it is completed. After that the other chapters will be open for all of you to build the story.
The chapters are headed as follows;
Chapter 1 - Preparing for the End
Chpater 2 - The End
Chapter 3 - Rebirth
Chapter 4 - The Exploration
Chapter 5 - Life continues
It is my hope that as the story unfolds, you will realise that you have a way to re-create and continue your RP character in the new code.
Please help me in making this a success, any input please note me, or email nilk.4d@gmail.com.
Cheers,
Nilk
Edit, please try to keep replies in this thread and leave the End of the World thread just for the story, thanks!
I have started a thread called the End of the World, where I hope to be able to RP characters through the pwipe. This I cannot do on my own, and would dearly love other players to join me in making this a really big RP event.
There are a further 5 chapters to come, chapter 1 is well underway and I will post as soon as it is completed. After that the other chapters will be open for all of you to build the story.
The chapters are headed as follows;
Chapter 1 - Preparing for the End
Chpater 2 - The End
Chapter 3 - Rebirth
Chapter 4 - The Exploration
Chapter 5 - Life continues
It is my hope that as the story unfolds, you will realise that you have a way to re-create and continue your RP character in the new code.
Please help me in making this a success, any input please note me, or email nilk.4d@gmail.com.
Cheers,
Nilk
Edit, please try to keep replies in this thread and leave the End of the World thread just for the story, thanks!
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Roleplay / End of the World
« on: May 28, 2010, 03:55:08 pm »
Beginning of the End (Prologue)
Although the 4 dimensions have been stable for over 600 years, something is not right about the time traps. Recently they have been moving, coalescing and even disappearing. The air around the time traps reeks of ozone; people are reporting strange and ominous sounds coming from within. Others have seen people entering a portal with a known destination and are never seen again.
Space explorers have reported unnatural fluctuations in the time-space fabric, throwing them off course by many light years.
Eminent scientists are researching the time traps, have come up with some unsettling theories. That the great cataclysm that caused them is reversing and the rifts are falling in on themselves. They cannot explain why this is happening, or if it is just a temporary reversal, but they are certain that if this process continues, unabated; all life is in grave peril. The power that would be unleashed would annihilate the dimensions, nothing would survive. Research is continuing, but the outcome is looking bleak.
In Olde Yorke, dragons have been seen in more numbers than has ever have been in recorded history, all flying in the same direction as if chased by an unseen foe. What could possibly put fear in to so many dragons’ hearts?
The newspapers in Dodge are full of strange tales, mysterious disappearances, and strange lights appearing in the skies above. Prospectors tell of gold singing, a strange, haunting, melancholy song.
In Old Carthage more archeologists are missing than the seasonal norm, the authorities are requesting help from time travels to assist in tracking down the cause. Tides and floods are not predictable anymore, the Egyptians are worried, more and more rituals to Ra are being performed, trying to appease the gods.
Has the war that ended in the year 2079, come back to deliver one final blow? Was the unnatural power unleashed, too much for the dimensions to contain?
Although the 4 dimensions have been stable for over 600 years, something is not right about the time traps. Recently they have been moving, coalescing and even disappearing. The air around the time traps reeks of ozone; people are reporting strange and ominous sounds coming from within. Others have seen people entering a portal with a known destination and are never seen again.
Space explorers have reported unnatural fluctuations in the time-space fabric, throwing them off course by many light years.
Eminent scientists are researching the time traps, have come up with some unsettling theories. That the great cataclysm that caused them is reversing and the rifts are falling in on themselves. They cannot explain why this is happening, or if it is just a temporary reversal, but they are certain that if this process continues, unabated; all life is in grave peril. The power that would be unleashed would annihilate the dimensions, nothing would survive. Research is continuing, but the outcome is looking bleak.
In Olde Yorke, dragons have been seen in more numbers than has ever have been in recorded history, all flying in the same direction as if chased by an unseen foe. What could possibly put fear in to so many dragons’ hearts?
The newspapers in Dodge are full of strange tales, mysterious disappearances, and strange lights appearing in the skies above. Prospectors tell of gold singing, a strange, haunting, melancholy song.
In Old Carthage more archeologists are missing than the seasonal norm, the authorities are requesting help from time travels to assist in tracking down the cause. Tides and floods are not predictable anymore, the Egyptians are worried, more and more rituals to Ra are being performed, trying to appease the gods.
Has the war that ended in the year 2079, come back to deliver one final blow? Was the unnatural power unleashed, too much for the dimensions to contain?
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Suggestions & Ideas / Re: Player Wipe (PWipe)
« on: May 26, 2010, 08:44:05 am »
I know I’ve been away, but sometimes RL does things to you that changes your priorities. I never wanted to stop playing, but there you go. It had nothing to do with this place has got boring etc.
Also I get the feeling that this has all been decided anyway, but I wanted to post my views, and they are my views. I don’t assume that other people think the same way as my, unlike some others.
I will say, that after speaking to Anubis, that with the changes coming there is actually no way a pwipe can be averted. Not that I am happy about it, just beginning to accept it. But there are still implications to a pwipe that I have yet to see answered, and this is what is keeping me from answering the question would I play again? I also see this as a different question to would I recreate? Too explain, the answer to would I recreate? Is more than likely, yes, as I have friends here that I do not want to lose contact with, and I mean RP players not just in RL. Hack & Slashers might not get this point, but RP’ers will. Will I play again? Much harder to answer, very undecided on this. Do I really want to take months, if not years the way I level
to get to a point that I can start exploring the zones that I have not completed? Before you say anything Virisin, I can’t/don’t want to level like you do. I also do not have the knowledge of the game that you have, so it would take me a hell of a lot longer to be at the level I could explore like I am now doing in the old code. So at the present time, I would more than likely recreate and sit at recall, my choice.
Actually I am going to stop here, I have got to page 8 and the discussion is turning in to a Hack and Slashers will love this change and well I am an RP’er who is not going to love this change, but is resigned to the fact it will and yes has to happen.
Rp
The long investment in building the character’s background and their identity in 4D, here Diandra is the only person so far to come up with a part solution, but I don’t think I have seen anyone comment on this, perhaps us RP’ers are the minority;
Diandra: Do not delete the characters, just put them all at level 1 again, that leaves the history of the character intact. And yes, the difference between deleting/recreating them and setting them back at 1 is minimum, it's the thought behind it (I'm sure there's at least a few people in 4d who will understand what I mean with this). People can continue where they left off socialwise, as those who just want the h&s can continue their way too.
Are we going to keep our RP flags?
Clans
How long will it take the leader to purchase the clanhalls back?
Will the RP players that currently belong to a clan and hence it is part of their “history” be allowed to join as soon as they create?
Time invested
No need to comment on this, we have all invested considerable time in our own way, from playing to coding and building.
Economy
What’s stopping players creating alts and donating to their mains? Seen that a lot in the past, no wonder I am in the token poor character, as the only alt I have is a level 1 char to help newbs in mudschool.
Alts
Virisin’s point about the new system will reduce alts? With limited pracs and having to make a choice of which skills will lead to alts. What do you do if you cocked up your choices, pwipe the char again? What if you want a gypsy to feed your mage, or located objects? Exactly the same as it is now.
To back that up Diandra already has hinted as this;
If, after the skilltree-change, people would get practices according to their current level/tier and would just randomly pick a skilltree, they might make a wrong decision which can not be undone
Perzes
Can’t comment as I’ve never had a perze.
Other comments
Xeriruth: Oh, I forgot to say I'd play again, because I"d have something new to do!
Well yes if you class the new combat+skill tree, but a strong no as you will have to do all the “old” quests again
Virisin: Because all you (Jasson) do currently is sit at recall. It's all anyone does
really because no one needs to do anything anymore. GM made you all lazy.
No, its because some people have completed the quests and are where they want to be, this WILL happen again, you are just restarting the cycle. Some of use have got to GM to ENABLE us to explorer the harder zones, and in my case that isn’t helping me a lot lol.
Virisin: The best thing about this game is racing to do things, to be the first or the best at something, or the fastest.
That is in your opinion, its YOUR game play. Not mine. I couldn’t give a toss who got what first, who is the all powerful PK. I like to mix with other players and rp a bit, explorer a bit and yes now and again level a bit. But I get no cheap thrill of being the first to do anything.
Virsin: Either way GM is going to be removed so that's not really an arguing point. It's one of the crappiest most unbalancing and detrimental parts of our current system.
I do like your sweeping comments and that fact you should be taken as the truth and so no need to discuss the point. Yes its unbalanced, but that’s was because a player spent a long time to get there get this reward. It enabled players to more or less not have to keep making alts for different classes. I agree it was too far, but it could have been changed. But it has gone, no point discussing!
Horus: Its like joining WoW and someone gave you a spare high ranking character with uber eq and you have never played WoW before
Sorry no, I wasn’t just given I high powered player, I made that player and I have played the game before. The difference is in the combat and the level system, not the world we play and enjoy. All we are doing is adapting to new system to work in the “old” world.
Horus: The end result of this is grinding out quests. So you have xp grinding and token grinding.
But arnt you forcing us to do this yet again? I mean, how else will I level, buy a house etc.?
Hayto: I've got a genious solution. Make a new port where all the new content goes, discontinue support on the old port, allow people to play both simultaneously
Now I actually like this idea, but the pitfalls are too numerous. Use your GM to explore a hard zone to enable your char in the main port to do the quest at a lower level. Use the old port to ID, locate item etc. etc. Unfortunately I think this option is not viable.
Also I get the feeling that this has all been decided anyway, but I wanted to post my views, and they are my views. I don’t assume that other people think the same way as my, unlike some others.
I will say, that after speaking to Anubis, that with the changes coming there is actually no way a pwipe can be averted. Not that I am happy about it, just beginning to accept it. But there are still implications to a pwipe that I have yet to see answered, and this is what is keeping me from answering the question would I play again? I also see this as a different question to would I recreate? Too explain, the answer to would I recreate? Is more than likely, yes, as I have friends here that I do not want to lose contact with, and I mean RP players not just in RL. Hack & Slashers might not get this point, but RP’ers will. Will I play again? Much harder to answer, very undecided on this. Do I really want to take months, if not years the way I level
to get to a point that I can start exploring the zones that I have not completed? Before you say anything Virisin, I can’t/don’t want to level like you do. I also do not have the knowledge of the game that you have, so it would take me a hell of a lot longer to be at the level I could explore like I am now doing in the old code. So at the present time, I would more than likely recreate and sit at recall, my choice.Actually I am going to stop here, I have got to page 8 and the discussion is turning in to a Hack and Slashers will love this change and well I am an RP’er who is not going to love this change, but is resigned to the fact it will and yes has to happen.
Rp
The long investment in building the character’s background and their identity in 4D, here Diandra is the only person so far to come up with a part solution, but I don’t think I have seen anyone comment on this, perhaps us RP’ers are the minority;
Diandra: Do not delete the characters, just put them all at level 1 again, that leaves the history of the character intact. And yes, the difference between deleting/recreating them and setting them back at 1 is minimum, it's the thought behind it (I'm sure there's at least a few people in 4d who will understand what I mean with this). People can continue where they left off socialwise, as those who just want the h&s can continue their way too.
Are we going to keep our RP flags?
Clans
How long will it take the leader to purchase the clanhalls back?
Will the RP players that currently belong to a clan and hence it is part of their “history” be allowed to join as soon as they create?
Time invested
No need to comment on this, we have all invested considerable time in our own way, from playing to coding and building.
Economy
What’s stopping players creating alts and donating to their mains? Seen that a lot in the past, no wonder I am in the token poor character, as the only alt I have is a level 1 char to help newbs in mudschool.
Alts
Virisin’s point about the new system will reduce alts? With limited pracs and having to make a choice of which skills will lead to alts. What do you do if you cocked up your choices, pwipe the char again? What if you want a gypsy to feed your mage, or located objects? Exactly the same as it is now.
To back that up Diandra already has hinted as this;
If, after the skilltree-change, people would get practices according to their current level/tier and would just randomly pick a skilltree, they might make a wrong decision which can not be undone
Perzes
Can’t comment as I’ve never had a perze.
Other comments
Xeriruth: Oh, I forgot to say I'd play again, because I"d have something new to do!
Well yes if you class the new combat+skill tree, but a strong no as you will have to do all the “old” quests again
Virisin: Because all you (Jasson) do currently is sit at recall. It's all anyone does
really because no one needs to do anything anymore. GM made you all lazy.
No, its because some people have completed the quests and are where they want to be, this WILL happen again, you are just restarting the cycle. Some of use have got to GM to ENABLE us to explorer the harder zones, and in my case that isn’t helping me a lot lol.
Virisin: The best thing about this game is racing to do things, to be the first or the best at something, or the fastest.
That is in your opinion, its YOUR game play. Not mine. I couldn’t give a toss who got what first, who is the all powerful PK. I like to mix with other players and rp a bit, explorer a bit and yes now and again level a bit. But I get no cheap thrill of being the first to do anything.
Virsin: Either way GM is going to be removed so that's not really an arguing point. It's one of the crappiest most unbalancing and detrimental parts of our current system.
I do like your sweeping comments and that fact you should be taken as the truth and so no need to discuss the point. Yes its unbalanced, but that’s was because a player spent a long time to get there get this reward. It enabled players to more or less not have to keep making alts for different classes. I agree it was too far, but it could have been changed. But it has gone, no point discussing!
Horus: Its like joining WoW and someone gave you a spare high ranking character with uber eq and you have never played WoW before
Sorry no, I wasn’t just given I high powered player, I made that player and I have played the game before. The difference is in the combat and the level system, not the world we play and enjoy. All we are doing is adapting to new system to work in the “old” world.
Horus: The end result of this is grinding out quests. So you have xp grinding and token grinding.
But arnt you forcing us to do this yet again? I mean, how else will I level, buy a house etc.?
Hayto: I've got a genious solution. Make a new port where all the new content goes, discontinue support on the old port, allow people to play both simultaneously
Now I actually like this idea, but the pitfalls are too numerous. Use your GM to explore a hard zone to enable your char in the main port to do the quest at a lower level. Use the old port to ID, locate item etc. etc. Unfortunately I think this option is not viable.
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