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General Discussions / Re: Bobas
« on: February 22, 2013, 10:21:36 am »
How about White Flame, The Sage, and Alabastor Heart?
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What's to stop this dishonourable challenger from just running there and get it as soon as it is forfeited?
He might have to race some others for it, but since he's prepared, he'd stand a much larger chance of beating them to it. Hell - he could even be standing beside the altar, when he makes his challenge.
Whoever has the BBV is already "The strongest Player". Making it considerably better than all other equipment would be an advantage that he/she doesn't really need, and also making it harder for the BBV to change owner.
One possible idea could be to autoset both wearer and challenger as PK. As long as the challenge is valid or you are the BBV champion, you stay PK. After that you can pay to have the flag removed, if you wish.
Wouldn't "the best focus in the game" be worth a lot more than "the best arm item in the game"?
But call it The Blue Bolt of Victory, so both items get the same abbreviation.haha, i love it. And if we go with a sword for melee, can use Blue Blade of Victory.
Quote4. Should the items increase stats upon kill milestones?
I don't think this is a good idea. We already have two levelling item - the Orcrist and the Golems, - and the scripts for those are very complex, and it would be hard to put in enough checks to stop all potential abuse. (Also, see point 1 about not going overboard and point 7 about abuse).
The BBV is a unique item, that only one player gets. Let's keep that in mind.
agreedQuote6. Should auto-challenges be allowed?I think so, to avoid a person hiding out in their Clanhall to avoid challenges.
Only if death occurs on a battle over the BBV [should it change owners upon death], not if the bearer happens to die from a mob or other player during the challenge.
I think challenges should always trigger a message on a global channel that cannot be toggled off, so that everyone logged on can see them, not just the BBV-bearer and the ones in the same room. The message could be the one in the challenge social, only global. This part might need some coding, perhaps a dedicated global channel.
There should be a reasonably long timer, to give the bearer a chance to see it and respond. Perhaps 5-10 minutes?
Since a player might miss the challenge due to fight spam, it should then be auto-repeated over the global channel every 30 seconds until it's accepted, refused, or the timer runs out.
If there is no response, or the challenge is refused the band should autochange to the challenger.
It should however perhaps not be allowed to challenge a player who has the afk flag set.
There should be at least one days delay between challenges, perhaps more.I am thinking more like a week.
no autoforce to wear.agreed
agreedQuoteShould the BBV be lootable?Definitely not. Nobody should be able to get the BBV without a proper challenge.
Example: a clan of 3 PK'rs could hook each other up and kill the other two members over and over and back forth to get full return without having killed the same repeatedly.[/i]a clan of 3 PKers, hm? Who could that possibly be referring to..... >_>
I think the WHO list should display who the current BBV holder is. Both for prestige and info reasons, this would be a good thing.yes! I think that is a great idea!
9. After all these changes would you participate more actively in obtaining the BBV?Yes! ^_^
I would like to propose some changes to the BBV:
1. New stats for both casters and melee.
a. There could be two items created and the item transforms, much like the Grizzled fur.
b. It has been suggested that casters receive a focus instead of an arm item, since there isn't anything other than a focus that is truly beneficial to casters in terms of gear.
c. Otherwise stats and an innate could be applied. (Which stats can be discussed)
2. BBV transfers ownership upon death.
a. Both parties must be PK and the kill can not be made in the typical arena rooms... battlefield arena/tournament yard... so kills must be done in auto-challenge arena or open world.
b. When the BBV is transferred it will auto-equip to the current owner. Since the BBV will have new stats, it should ideally be better than majority of items in the same wear location it has.
c. The BBV should always be worn by the owner to show that they have it and can appropriately be challenged through an auto-challenge system (to be mentioned)
d. Ideally the BBV will be non-removable.
3. Auto-Challenge system. You will be able to use the challenge social to challenge the BBV wearer for the BBV
a. A small arena built specifically for the BBV challenges.
b. We need to discuss the limitations of challenges:
How often? Location of challenger/challenged? Witnesses? etc.
4. The item(s) gain levels similar to the Orcrist, however it will be based on the number of PK kills (with limitations)
a. Limitations would be the level of the individual being killed, and unable to do repeat kills. Also arena kills will not count.
b. The item should gradually get more powerful but never extremely overpowering, making the current wearer a god so-to-speak.
5. To prevent inactivity and the BBV remaining out of circulation, a timer should be added.
a. This timer will reset to full upon any login though, the timer should last roughly 4 days real time.
This is not a complete list of all of the proposed changes, but just those I can remember at this time. If anyone thinks of anything they would like to see for this versatile hand changing item, please say so, and mention what you like and dislike of the proposed changes. Also please mention what you would feel is appropriate stats, milestones for the band being leveled and appropriate stat growth/innates etc. Feel free to comment as much as needed. And may we see a better BBV in the future!