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Suggestions & Ideas / Re: Player Wipe (PWipe)

« on: November 10, 2009, 05:03:08 pm »

And I for one do happen to have at least 10 or so spare sets of equip Asmo, I love repeating all those quests. 

Just because YOU like doing quests almost solely for the end result doesn't mean the process isn't just as important as the reward for other people

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Suggestions & Ideas / Re: Player Wipe (PWipe)

« on: November 10, 2009, 04:40:06 pm »

Asmo: You are such an indecisive fuck, (still love you). I know you're not one of the ones that abused anything, as far as tokens go, no one really did. Lumberjacking was a legitimate way of gaining tokens for a while and you can't really call people taking advantage of the way things work when they're not bugged at all 'abuse', but the fact remains that a lot of houses were gained that way and they took away from the value my own house had. Everyone seems to have a house these days, you're the odd one out if you don't have one, it's not special anymore. I honestly believe that you're remembering how hard it is to get tokens and a house the first time round, and not thinking about how easy it will be a second time around.

Well let me clarify that 1: If i earned any tokens lumberjacking at all, it was the minimum amount (I dont even remember ever cutting down trees), and 2: I never "took advantage" of these methods as you're saying so many did.  If I did, I'd have the number of tokens Xeriuth has (not saying he "took advantage" of anything, but he does have a lot of tokens, and thats the only point im trying to make!)

Now, just because everyone else got a house doesn't make me feel my house's value dropped.  I was/am just happy i have a place to store things without worry, why should I feel upset that everyone and their mother has a house?  How does that affect me?  It doesn't, is the answer.

And finally, you target the wrong part of my argument.  Of course itll be easier the second/third/fourth/fifth/etc time around, they're the same quests you've already done (you should be worried if it gets harder!).  Its not about it being easy, its about it being boring.  Questing should be new, fun, challenging, and exciting, especially if you have to earn back EVERYTHING (equipment, tokens, etc) you earned from the beginning. But its not, its just repeating the things you've done, going through the motions.  If people liked doing quests they've already done when they didnt have to get their equipment back, you wouldn't see people at recall all the time, they'd be out repeating their favorite quests on some sort of regular basis.  But last time I checked, that doesn't happen.

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Suggestions & Ideas / Re: Player Wipe (PWipe)

« on: November 10, 2009, 03:48:26 pm »

let me first say i haven't voted yet... i'm on the fence, and since "on the fence" or "iffy" isnt an option, i currently abstain!

Why?  for a few reasons.  First, I am not one who abused the token thing... I worked hard for my tokens (and equipment) to buy a house and perzes.  Lynx and I had to buy the house together because we didn't have enough tokens.  And just giving up that stuff for all the hard work I've put in for years is an annoying thought.

"But Asmo, you can earn all the stuff back by doing quests," doesn't really convince me either.  The point of questing (to me anyway) is to explore, find hidden things, figure out the secrets of the world I'm in, and to earn something for putting the pieces together.  Yes, you go back and do those quests again if you hit a DT or whatever, but they're NEVER as much fun the 2nd or 3rd time around, you're just going through the motions (believe me, as someone who has hit plenty of DTs and spent a lot of time going back through quests for certain things).  Now if you throw a pwipe into it, and have to go back and do them ALL again, from the short every day quests to the large week-long quests... I don't know how much of that I'd want to do again, just because its not as fun anymore.  You might not remember at first what you're doing, but it'll come back.  If all the quests were different, that would be a different story, but i'm not going to pretend for a second that that's a plausible idea.

I do like the idea of everyone restarting on a level playing field, and how it would fit in with the new system, but obviously as you can see, I'm torn.  Hence Iffy/On the fence (not depends).

Convince me, i dare you 

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Suggestions & Ideas / Re: Player Wipe (PWipe)

« on: November 09, 2009, 09:08:26 pm »

Thotter agrees he'd play again, as does Asmodeus.

Hey, i'll drag myself into this discussion when I'm good and ready!