Elementals

[Fizban]

I dug through the code to make it so players only got 1 elemental instead of 2 when casting the elemental spells. Seems any character with 60 charisma or higher summons 2 elementals instead of 1. Do most people feel this should be removed and they should only summon 1 no matter what, leave it how it is? Raise the amount of charisma needed to summon 2?

[erwin]

Perhaps the tiers of the elementals need to be looked at as well?

Summoning 2 air / 2 water elementals shouldn't be a problem, but summoning 2 earth / fire elementals as it is now is rather overkill.

[erwin]

Is there something wrong with the elementals, or is it just how I cast them?

This is what I get when I summon an air elemental (T1 spell), and a water elemental (T2 spell) when typing group.

                     [ 2150H    10M  5000V 0T ( 0.0%)I] [30 ---] the water elemental
                     [ 5658H    10M  5000V 4T ( 0.0%)I] [35 ---] the air elemental
                     [  191H    10M  5000V 0T ( 0.0%)I] [ 1 ---] Erwin (my clone)

The water elemental seems to be of a lower tier, has lesser HP, and of a lower level than the air elemental, even though it's a T2 spell.

[Virisin]

Yes, elementals are screwed..

[Fizban]

Aren't they different classes though? Also hp isn't all that determines a mobs strength, hitroll, damroll, speed etc.

[erwin]

Yeah, but Tier does.

Or rather, a water elemental can be killed in one-two hits, but an air elemental takes roughly more to die.

I'm wondering why a T2 spell is weaker than a T1 spell, perhaps the tiers should be swapped?

[Virisin]

Basically elementals are purely screwed atm..

[Fizban]

What you're missing though Erwin is those spells are not from the same class. A tier 1 mage spell that is in a area of magic that mages excel at may very well be stronger than a tier 2 spell of another class in the same field of magic.

[erwin]

A suggestion: Maybe like clones, if the elemental's owner logs out, might it be possible for the elementals to go poof as well?

[Kvetch]

What?  You don't want the SPCA to come and grab them along with all those abandoned pets?  How else will we get it to rain cats and dogs?

[erwin]

Actually, I do want. Recall's been spamming up with elementals lately

[Prometheus]

Actually, I do want. Recall's been spamming up with elementals lately

I agree with Kvetch the SPCA should clean rogue elementals as well

Prometheus.